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		By: Paul Mags		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Mags]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2019 15:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pmags.com/ground-cloths-a-quick-overview#comment-659873&quot;&gt;G M Andres aka “Not Yet”&lt;/a&gt;.

Awesome! Have fun on your next trek!]]></description>
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<p>Awesome! Have fun on your next trek!</p>
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		By: G M Andres aka “Not Yet”		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2019 15:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey Paul…..greetings and Happy New Year from New England.  Very, very good article….and great comments.  I bought a Tyvek ground cloth for my Tarptent Bowfin1….for my “failed” 2018 AT thru-hike (primarily for the tent).  Where I found it invaluable was as a protective ground cover for shelter floors.  After spending big money for sleeping bag and pad, I was grateful for having it (those familiar with high-use shelters on the AT know how filthy they can get).  I am making another thru-hike attempt this coming spring – the Tyvek will be coming with me.  Incidentally, age, knees, back and 64 years prevents success in 2019, I will officially become an AT Section Hiker!  Take care, amigo!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Paul…..greetings and Happy New Year from New England.  Very, very good article….and great comments.  I bought a Tyvek ground cloth for my Tarptent Bowfin1….for my “failed” 2018 AT thru-hike (primarily for the tent).  Where I found it invaluable was as a protective ground cover for shelter floors.  After spending big money for sleeping bag and pad, I was grateful for having it (those familiar with high-use shelters on the AT know how filthy they can get).  I am making another thru-hike attempt this coming spring – the Tyvek will be coming with me.  Incidentally, age, knees, back and 64 years prevents success in 2019, I will officially become an AT Section Hiker!  Take care, amigo!</p>
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		By: Jo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2018 09:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pmags.com/ground-cloths-a-quick-overview#comment-633741&quot;&gt;Paul Mags&lt;/a&gt;.

I used a Polycryo sheet on the JMT (purchased from a gear manufacturer, so the proper stuff). It was often windy setting up camp, and handling the thin plastic was a pain. I put smallish stones on the corners to hold it down. Sometimes when adjusting the sheet it would tear, and I soon ended up with multiple smaller sheets of Polycryo. I then went to Tyvek, more weight but so much easier to use 

Apart from protection from sharpies under my air mat, the ground cloth keeps the mud off my dcf tent floor, keeping it clean for packing. With clear plastic it is very  hard to tell which is the dirty side. No such problem with white Tyvek! Just fold it in half, dirt to dirt. 

Now I’m retired with a few $$$ spare, I might try the lighter dcf solution. 

A 1/8” foam mat is also about the same weight as Tyvek, but bulky to pack. 

Thanks for keeping this discussion going!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pmags.com/ground-cloths-a-quick-overview#comment-633741">Paul Mags</a>.</p>
<p>I used a Polycryo sheet on the JMT (purchased from a gear manufacturer, so the proper stuff). It was often windy setting up camp, and handling the thin plastic was a pain. I put smallish stones on the corners to hold it down. Sometimes when adjusting the sheet it would tear, and I soon ended up with multiple smaller sheets of Polycryo. I then went to Tyvek, more weight but so much easier to use </p>
<p>Apart from protection from sharpies under my air mat, the ground cloth keeps the mud off my dcf tent floor, keeping it clean for packing. With clear plastic it is very  hard to tell which is the dirty side. No such problem with white Tyvek! Just fold it in half, dirt to dirt. </p>
<p>Now I’m retired with a few $$$ spare, I might try the lighter dcf solution. </p>
<p>A 1/8” foam mat is also about the same weight as Tyvek, but bulky to pack. </p>
<p>Thanks for keeping this discussion going!</p>
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		By: Paul Mags		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Mags]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2017 05:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pmags.com/ground-cloths-a-quick-overview#comment-633732&quot;&gt;Adam&lt;/a&gt;.

DCF is suspect in the long haul for longevity fwiw.]]></description>
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<p>DCF is suspect in the long haul for longevity fwiw.</p>
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		By: Adam		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2017 02:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pmags.com/ground-cloths-a-quick-overview#comment-608239&quot;&gt;don&lt;/a&gt;.

Peter + Don: I ask this out of sheer curiosity. Is there any real point to go cuben fiber/dyneema over polycro? This is a novice speaking, but it seems like they serve almost the same exact purpose (works well as ground cloth or tarp) but the latter is far, far cheeper. Even though cuben fiber has good tear strength it is very susceptible to abrasion. So, it seems (purely from an outside perspective) an unnecessary expense esp if it won&#039;t last. I don&#039;t have the inside perspective of using it and especially of using it for extended use/miles. So, I&#039;m glad to hear feedback from those who have put heavy use. For me, it seems that polycro does the same thing for a tiny fraction of the cost, and when it&#039;s life is lived it&#039;s not a big deal at all to replace.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pmags.com/ground-cloths-a-quick-overview#comment-608239">don</a>.</p>
<p>Peter + Don: I ask this out of sheer curiosity. Is there any real point to go cuben fiber/dyneema over polycro? This is a novice speaking, but it seems like they serve almost the same exact purpose (works well as ground cloth or tarp) but the latter is far, far cheeper. Even though cuben fiber has good tear strength it is very susceptible to abrasion. So, it seems (purely from an outside perspective) an unnecessary expense esp if it won&#8217;t last. I don&#8217;t have the inside perspective of using it and especially of using it for extended use/miles. So, I&#8217;m glad to hear feedback from those who have put heavy use. For me, it seems that polycro does the same thing for a tiny fraction of the cost, and when it&#8217;s life is lived it&#8217;s not a big deal at all to replace.</p>
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		By: Paul Mags		</title>
		<link>https://pmags.com/ground-cloths-a-quick-overview#comment-630452</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Mags]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2017 04:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pmags.com/ground-cloths-a-quick-overview#comment-630439&quot;&gt;Lloyd&lt;/a&gt;.

Neither is procreating, eating meat, driving by yourself, wearing clothes made with petrochemicals, or commuting to work. Choose your poisons carefully.  :)]]></description>
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<p>Neither is procreating, eating meat, driving by yourself, wearing clothes made with petrochemicals, or commuting to work. Choose your poisons carefully.  🙂</p>
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		By: Lloyd		</title>
		<link>https://pmags.com/ground-cloths-a-quick-overview#comment-630439</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lloyd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2017 00:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pmags.com/ground-cloths-a-quick-overview#comment-13924&quot;&gt;Paul Mags&lt;/a&gt;.

Using a wash machine may not be good for the environment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pmags.com/ground-cloths-a-quick-overview#comment-13924">Paul Mags</a>.</p>
<p>Using a wash machine may not be good for the environment.</p>
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		By: Paul Mags		</title>
		<link>https://pmags.com/ground-cloths-a-quick-overview#comment-617913</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Mags]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2017 21:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pmags.com/ground-cloths-a-quick-overview#comment-617908&quot;&gt;NathanT&lt;/a&gt;.

Sounds good in theory esp for winter.  Give it a whirl!]]></description>
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<p>Sounds good in theory esp for winter.  Give it a whirl!</p>
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		By: NathanT		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2017 18:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I’m working on a new polycryo sheet and was brain-storming about a top and bottom layer of the normal sheet with a mylar layer in middle to reflect heat back. Any thoughts or experiences trying this?  This would have the advantage of decent durability with some degree of R-value.

I was thinking of using a fine coating of spray adhesive to hold the layers together and then tape or melt the edges.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m working on a new polycryo sheet and was brain-storming about a top and bottom layer of the normal sheet with a mylar layer in middle to reflect heat back. Any thoughts or experiences trying this?  This would have the advantage of decent durability with some degree of R-value.</p>
<p>I was thinking of using a fine coating of spray adhesive to hold the layers together and then tape or melt the edges.</p>
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		By: Faz Harris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Faz Harris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2017 10:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great info, what I have been looking for, and I have been camping in Malaysia for a long time. Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great info, what I have been looking for, and I have been camping in Malaysia for a long time. Thank you.</p>
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