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		By: Paul Mags		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Mags]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2025 00:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pmags.com/cold-and-wet-the-hardest-hiking#comment-711103&quot;&gt;Christopher Hillier&lt;/a&gt;.

I think you did better than you give yourself credit for, my friend!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pmags.com/cold-and-wet-the-hardest-hiking#comment-711103">Christopher Hillier</a>.</p>
<p>I think you did better than you give yourself credit for, my friend!</p>
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		By: Christopher Hillier		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher Hillier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2025 23:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Concise, important information from two of the most experienced hikers that I know.

Even though they told me, &quot;You&#039;ll be fine.&quot; on the Hayduke Trail and I was NOT fine; I was terrified for most of the trail.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concise, important information from two of the most experienced hikers that I know.</p>
<p>Even though they told me, &#8220;You&#8217;ll be fine.&#8221; on the Hayduke Trail and I was NOT fine; I was terrified for most of the trail.</p>
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		By: Paul Mags		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Mags]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2018 21:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pmags.com/cold-and-wet-the-hardest-hiking#comment-649889&quot;&gt;Paulc23415@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt;.

I am weird. I tend to hike in rain gear when it is that wet. ;) Being serious, I&#039;ve had fleece dry from body heat in a dry shelter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pmags.com/cold-and-wet-the-hardest-hiking#comment-649889">Paulc23415@gmail.com</a>.</p>
<p>I am weird. I tend to hike in rain gear when it is that wet. 😉 Being serious, I&#8217;ve had fleece dry from body heat in a dry shelter.</p>
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		By: Paulc23415@gmail.com		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paulc23415@gmail.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2018 23:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pmags.com/cold-and-wet-the-hardest-hiking#comment-230097&quot;&gt;Philip Werner&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;p&gt;It only has to rain heavily for half an hour to soak you to the skin unless your wearing full waterproofs.and in that weather there is no way to dry your clothes off.&lt;/p&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pmags.com/cold-and-wet-the-hardest-hiking#comment-230097">Philip Werner</a>.</p>
<p>It only has to rain heavily for half an hour to soak you to the skin unless your wearing full waterproofs.and in that weather there is no way to dry your clothes off.</p>
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		By: Paul Mags		</title>
		<link>https://pmags.com/cold-and-wet-the-hardest-hiking#comment-242630</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Mags]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jan 2014 01:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pmags.com/cold-and-wet-the-hardest-hiking#comment-241436&quot;&gt;Merry Eric&lt;/a&gt;.

Glad it works for you. But that is a very different experience from what most people (myself included) have with puffy layers...despite what marketing materials may say. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pmags.com/cold-and-wet-the-hardest-hiking#comment-241436">Merry Eric</a>.</p>
<p>Glad it works for you. But that is a very different experience from what most people (myself included) have with puffy layers&#8230;despite what marketing materials may say. 🙂</p>
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		By: Merry Eric		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Merry Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jan 2014 15:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pmags.com/cold-and-wet-the-hardest-hiking#comment-241364&quot;&gt;Paul Mags&lt;/a&gt;.

The Nano Puff is designed to be warm when wet. It uses  Primaloft One insulation. The promotional material claims that when it is wet it loses just 3% of its insulation capability - that is, it retains 97% of its insulation capability. From my experience with it over two years that figure is quite believable. I find no difference in warmth whether it is wet or not. It draws moisture outward very well and is wind resistant too. Patagonia does make down versions of the Nano Puff but they go by a different name.

I very rarely wear it while hiking - it is mostly for breaks and for camp. I too hike hot, if I have put on the Nano then it is below 15 F and I&#039;m descending. But it is thin enough to use while hiking - thinner than fleeces I have owned.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pmags.com/cold-and-wet-the-hardest-hiking#comment-241364">Paul Mags</a>.</p>
<p>The Nano Puff is designed to be warm when wet. It uses  Primaloft One insulation. The promotional material claims that when it is wet it loses just 3% of its insulation capability &#8211; that is, it retains 97% of its insulation capability. From my experience with it over two years that figure is quite believable. I find no difference in warmth whether it is wet or not. It draws moisture outward very well and is wind resistant too. Patagonia does make down versions of the Nano Puff but they go by a different name.</p>
<p>I very rarely wear it while hiking &#8211; it is mostly for breaks and for camp. I too hike hot, if I have put on the Nano then it is below 15 F and I&#8217;m descending. But it is thin enough to use while hiking &#8211; thinner than fleeces I have owned.</p>
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		By: Paul Mags		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Mags]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jan 2014 14:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pmags.com/cold-and-wet-the-hardest-hiking#comment-241047&quot;&gt;Merry Eric&lt;/a&gt;.

The problem with any puffy, be it synthetic or down, is that it WILL get damp, or even wet, in these conditions if used while hiking.  The loft will be compromised and the garment will not be effective.  A puffy is best for camp/sleeping and breaks and not hiking. Even in cold and dry conditions, your body perspiration will get into the loft and, again, compromise the garment&#039;s effectiveness.  Only in very cold and dry conditions should a puffy be worn while hiking. 

A nano is roughly equivalent to a 200 wt fleece in terms of warmth. Naturally a 200 wt fleece is bulkier and heavier (and makes many people overheat while moving).  That&#039;s why many people like a 100wt fleece or even a  vest for active hiking as the weight and bulk penalty is not as pronounced.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pmags.com/cold-and-wet-the-hardest-hiking#comment-241047">Merry Eric</a>.</p>
<p>The problem with any puffy, be it synthetic or down, is that it WILL get damp, or even wet, in these conditions if used while hiking.  The loft will be compromised and the garment will not be effective.  A puffy is best for camp/sleeping and breaks and not hiking. Even in cold and dry conditions, your body perspiration will get into the loft and, again, compromise the garment&#8217;s effectiveness.  Only in very cold and dry conditions should a puffy be worn while hiking. </p>
<p>A nano is roughly equivalent to a 200 wt fleece in terms of warmth. Naturally a 200 wt fleece is bulkier and heavier (and makes many people overheat while moving).  That&#8217;s why many people like a 100wt fleece or even a  vest for active hiking as the weight and bulk penalty is not as pronounced.</p>
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		By: Merry Eric		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Merry Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jan 2014 11:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice write up of cold and wet hiking. Is fleece roughly equivalent to a nanopuff (Patagonia trade name)? I use my nanopuff the same way that you use the fleece. 
The one use I did not see mentioned was drying out base layers. When my base layers are wet or damp, I throw the nanopuff on: the water quickly moves to the outside of the nanopuff and evaporates. It certainly sounds like it would be the same.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice write up of cold and wet hiking. Is fleece roughly equivalent to a nanopuff (Patagonia trade name)? I use my nanopuff the same way that you use the fleece.<br />
The one use I did not see mentioned was drying out base layers. When my base layers are wet or damp, I throw the nanopuff on: the water quickly moves to the outside of the nanopuff and evaporates. It certainly sounds like it would be the same.</p>
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		By: a guy from BPL		</title>
		<link>https://pmags.com/cold-and-wet-the-hardest-hiking#comment-239032</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[a guy from BPL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 18:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I enjoyed reading your post.  Thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed reading your post.  Thanks.</p>
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		By: Paul Mags		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Mags]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 17:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pmags.com/cold-and-wet-the-hardest-hiking#comment-238936&quot;&gt;Steve&lt;/a&gt;.

If you can get your Oreos this easily, you must be doing something right! ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pmags.com/cold-and-wet-the-hardest-hiking#comment-238936">Steve</a>.</p>
<p>If you can get your Oreos this easily, you must be doing something right! 😉</p>
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