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		By: Paul Mags		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Mags]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2019 18:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pmags.com/20-year-long-term-review-discount-store-running-shorts#comment-677083&quot;&gt;Another Kevin&lt;/a&gt;.

Ha! Less useful...no matter the price.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pmags.com/20-year-long-term-review-discount-store-running-shorts#comment-677083">Another Kevin</a>.</p>
<p>Ha! Less useful&#8230;no matter the price.</p>
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		By: Another Kevin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Another Kevin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2019 18:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pmags.com/20-year-long-term-review-discount-store-running-shorts#comment-676261&quot;&gt;Paul Mags&lt;/a&gt;.

The last time I bought a pair of Darn Tough factory seconds, they were two different sizes!  I&#039;d really like to know who got the other pair just like them - maybe they needed the small ones, or at least one of us could get a wearable pair?

Of course this was in Northfield. Maybe TJ Maxx&#039;s &#039;seconds&#039; are a grade above this.

Love me some Darn Toughs, though!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pmags.com/20-year-long-term-review-discount-store-running-shorts#comment-676261">Paul Mags</a>.</p>
<p>The last time I bought a pair of Darn Tough factory seconds, they were two different sizes!  I&#8217;d really like to know who got the other pair just like them &#8211; maybe they needed the small ones, or at least one of us could get a wearable pair?</p>
<p>Of course this was in Northfield. Maybe TJ Maxx&#8217;s &#8216;seconds&#8217; are a grade above this.</p>
<p>Love me some Darn Toughs, though!</p>
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		By: Another Kevin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Another Kevin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2019 15:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pmags.com/20-year-long-term-review-discount-store-running-shorts#comment-677054&quot;&gt;Paul Mags&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah, gear that one man swears by, another man swears at.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pmags.com/20-year-long-term-review-discount-store-running-shorts#comment-677054">Paul Mags</a>.</p>
<p>Yeah, gear that one man swears by, another man swears at.</p>
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		By: Paul Mags		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Mags]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2019 15:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pmags.com/20-year-long-term-review-discount-store-running-shorts#comment-677049&quot;&gt;Another Kevin&lt;/a&gt;.

I know people who swear by convertible pants. They never fit me well or work for me. A literal case of YMMV.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pmags.com/20-year-long-term-review-discount-store-running-shorts#comment-677049">Another Kevin</a>.</p>
<p>I know people who swear by convertible pants. They never fit me well or work for me. A literal case of YMMV.</p>
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		By: Another Kevin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2019 15:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I still use nylon convertible hiking pants. With my hiking style tending toward shorter trips on rougher trails or routes (and I hike in the East, not in the desert), I find that maybe 80% of the time, I&#039;m wearing the trouser legs. When it&#039;s hot and I&#039;m on a clear trail, I can zip them off and that&#039;s less weight overall than carrying a separate pair of shorts.

But I just love C9 unmentionables. Light, cheap, do the job.  Cheap enough to toss when they get stinky beyond the power of a machine wash and a vinegar rinse to clear.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still use nylon convertible hiking pants. With my hiking style tending toward shorter trips on rougher trails or routes (and I hike in the East, not in the desert), I find that maybe 80% of the time, I&#8217;m wearing the trouser legs. When it&#8217;s hot and I&#8217;m on a clear trail, I can zip them off and that&#8217;s less weight overall than carrying a separate pair of shorts.</p>
<p>But I just love C9 unmentionables. Light, cheap, do the job.  Cheap enough to toss when they get stinky beyond the power of a machine wash and a vinegar rinse to clear.</p>
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		By: Paul Mags		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Mags]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2019 23:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pmags.com/20-year-long-term-review-discount-store-running-shorts#comment-676083&quot;&gt;Scott&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;But then again it looks good on lighterpacks…..&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ha! No doubt.]]></description>
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<blockquote><p>But then again it looks good on lighterpacks…..</p></blockquote>
<p>Ha! No doubt.</p>
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		By: Paul Mags		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Mags]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2019 23:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pmags.com/20-year-long-term-review-discount-store-running-shorts#comment-676256&quot;&gt;LarryBoy&lt;/a&gt;.

The C9 brand used to make some, too! TJ Maxx is also good for darn tough factory seconds.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pmags.com/20-year-long-term-review-discount-store-running-shorts#comment-676256">LarryBoy</a>.</p>
<p>The C9 brand used to make some, too! TJ Maxx is also good for darn tough factory seconds.</p>
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		By: LarryBoy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2019 22:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Running shorts that have both 1) a liner and 2) pockets are the magic unicorn of the hiking world. Tough to find but oh so lovely. TJ Maxx is where I&#039;ve had the best luck.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Running shorts that have both 1) a liner and 2) pockets are the magic unicorn of the hiking world. Tough to find but oh so lovely. TJ Maxx is where I&#8217;ve had the best luck.</p>
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		By: Scott		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2019 05:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Truth be told, I’m a bit of a gear junkie. I’m fortunate enough to have worked in the outdoor industry for over 20 years, which often provides substantial discounts. As a result I have tried a lot of different gear at little cost to myself by trying items and passing on the savings to someone else on often times slightly used gear.
My experience parallels yours, more often than not I have chosen a less expensive simpler item to rely on season after season.
The $20 100 weight fleece covers 90+% of the bases that a $150 fleece does; thereby increasing the “value” it represents.
I have spent a lot of time, and trial and plenty of error finding the sweet spot for best bang for your buck solutions to affordable lightweight functional systems that work for my 3 season applications.
The rising popularity of vlogging thru hikes and gear lists seems to drive people towards a few select items that make most top 10 lists and often carry a premium price tag.
If one looks beyond the list it is easy to find 90% of the functionality at a 10-15% weight penalty, with a 50% savings.
To your point, why pay the 50% premium to get a nominal improvement.

But then again it looks good on lighterpacks…..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truth be told, I’m a bit of a gear junkie. I’m fortunate enough to have worked in the outdoor industry for over 20 years, which often provides substantial discounts. As a result I have tried a lot of different gear at little cost to myself by trying items and passing on the savings to someone else on often times slightly used gear.<br />
My experience parallels yours, more often than not I have chosen a less expensive simpler item to rely on season after season.<br />
The $20 100 weight fleece covers 90+% of the bases that a $150 fleece does; thereby increasing the “value” it represents.<br />
I have spent a lot of time, and trial and plenty of error finding the sweet spot for best bang for your buck solutions to affordable lightweight functional systems that work for my 3 season applications.<br />
The rising popularity of vlogging thru hikes and gear lists seems to drive people towards a few select items that make most top 10 lists and often carry a premium price tag.<br />
If one looks beyond the list it is easy to find 90% of the functionality at a 10-15% weight penalty, with a 50% savings.<br />
To your point, why pay the 50% premium to get a nominal improvement.</p>
<p>But then again it looks good on lighterpacks…..</p>
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