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		By: karma		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2014 14:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve had people joke around about my old marmot beater because it&#039;s so puffy. after I tricked them into trying it on, they didn&#039;t want to take it off. the older thicker ones are a GREAT for reallllly cold days without having to layer up. It&#039;s like a wind jacket, down sweater, lite jacket and a parka all wrapped up in one with just one zipper. Thank you mags for giving a new lease to life on these older style jackets that for some. will never go out of style. Now I need to go bring in some firewood.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had people joke around about my old marmot beater because it&#8217;s so puffy. after I tricked them into trying it on, they didn&#8217;t want to take it off. the older thicker ones are a GREAT for reallllly cold days without having to layer up. It&#8217;s like a wind jacket, down sweater, lite jacket and a parka all wrapped up in one with just one zipper. Thank you mags for giving a new lease to life on these older style jackets that for some. will never go out of style. Now I need to go bring in some firewood.</p>
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		By: OldNSlow		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2014 12:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I question whether the new style down sweater with the micro-sized
baffles will be be warm enough. I mean the convention wisdom in a down sleeping bag is that every sewn-thru seam is a &quot;cold spot&quot; right ?
The new garments have at least 3-4 times as many sew thrus as an older
Puffy.  AND the sections are a lot thinner, because of the restraints of the small baffles, than an old school sweater.  Guess I&#039;ll stick with my older Montbell with the big baffles.  My original Down Sweater was a MYG kit from Frostline in the early 70&#039;s. 
Larry]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I question whether the new style down sweater with the micro-sized<br />
baffles will be be warm enough. I mean the convention wisdom in a down sleeping bag is that every sewn-thru seam is a &#8220;cold spot&#8221; right ?<br />
The new garments have at least 3-4 times as many sew thrus as an older<br />
Puffy.  AND the sections are a lot thinner, because of the restraints of the small baffles, than an old school sweater.  Guess I&#8217;ll stick with my older Montbell with the big baffles.  My original Down Sweater was a MYG kit from Frostline in the early 70&#8217;s.<br />
Larry</p>
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