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		By: Paul Mags		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2021 12:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pmags.com/stove-comparison-real-world-use#comment-699658&quot;&gt;Arlen&lt;/a&gt;.

Assuming you want to schlep the weight of a chimney or cut a hole in your delicate and expensive shelter, of course.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pmags.com/stove-comparison-real-world-use#comment-699658">Arlen</a>.</p>
<p>Assuming you want to schlep the weight of a chimney or cut a hole in your delicate and expensive shelter, of course.</p>
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		By: Arlen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2021 03:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In our high tech world there should be no campers cooking outside their tent in the wind. A chimney as small as 2” diameter and serving as a centre pole keeps air inside the tent safe.&lt;br /&gt;
 Use of a spark arrester is ancient technology, they get plugged with soot. A baffle in the stove takes care of all sparks and never plug.

&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.wintercampingsymposium.com/forum/gear-equipment/wood-stoves/2329-new-ideas-for-cooking-under-tarp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;https://www.wintercampingsymposium.com/forum/gear-equipment/wood-stoves/2329-new-ideas-for-cooking-under-tarp&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In our high tech world there should be no campers cooking outside their tent in the wind. A chimney as small as 2” diameter and serving as a centre pole keeps air inside the tent safe.<br />
 Use of a spark arrester is ancient technology, they get plugged with soot. A baffle in the stove takes care of all sparks and never plug.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.wintercampingsymposium.com/forum/gear-equipment/wood-stoves/2329-new-ideas-for-cooking-under-tarp" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.wintercampingsymposium.com/forum/gear-equipment/wood-stoves/2329-new-ideas-for-cooking-under-tarp</a></p>
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		By: Alcohol stove vs Canister Stove: Which is best? - Perfect Stove		</title>
		<link>https://pmags.com/stove-comparison-real-world-use#comment-699625</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alcohol stove vs Canister Stove: Which is best? - Perfect Stove]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2021 10:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] stoves. They are available in different sizes, including 4oz, 8oz and 16oz sizes. According to  Paul Mags, an average use of a 4oz canister can last about 8-10 uses. Most of the canisters are easily refilled [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] stoves. They are available in different sizes, including 4oz, 8oz and 16oz sizes. According to  Paul Mags, an average use of a 4oz canister can last about 8-10 uses. Most of the canisters are easily refilled [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: A Quick and Dirty Guide to The CDT &#124;		</title>
		<link>https://pmags.com/stove-comparison-real-world-use#comment-697034</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2020 20:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[&#8230;] a stove without an on/off valve is often not allowed.  No alcohol, no Esbit or campfires basically. Please see this doc I wrote earlier for more information.  Please pay attention to the stove bans. [&#8230;]&lt;/p&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] a stove without an on/off valve is often not allowed.  No alcohol, no Esbit or campfires basically. Please see this doc I wrote earlier for more information.  Please pay attention to the stove bans. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Paul Mags		</title>
		<link>https://pmags.com/stove-comparison-real-world-use#comment-688272</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Mags]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2019 04:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pmags.com/stove-comparison-real-world-use#comment-688269&quot;&gt;Laura Slade&lt;/a&gt;.

In the less populated Canadian Rockies, that is not my experience vs the US Rockies.

Note the lack of places in this great divide trail guide:
http://www.greatdividetrail.com/trip-planning-resources/resupplying/

 Rural gas stations did not typically carry Heet or similar. Unlike their US countetparts. Larger towns, such as your city of nearly 500k people, did in the hardware stores, of course.


Also, the link I gave about Canadian alcohol fuel is from a Canadian outdoor company.
https://www.canadianoutdoorequipment.com/expert-advice/gear-equipment/fuels-for-trangia-alcohol-stoves/

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pmags.com/stove-comparison-real-world-use#comment-688269">Laura Slade</a>.</p>
<p>In the less populated Canadian Rockies, that is not my experience vs the US Rockies.</p>
<p>Note the lack of places in this great divide trail guide:<br />
<a href="http://www.greatdividetrail.com/trip-planning-resources/resupplying/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.greatdividetrail.com/trip-planning-resources/resupplying/</a></p>
<p> Rural gas stations did not typically carry Heet or similar. Unlike their US countetparts. Larger towns, such as your city of nearly 500k people, did in the hardware stores, of course.</p>
<p>Also, the link I gave about Canadian alcohol fuel is from a Canadian outdoor company.<br />
<a href="https://www.canadianoutdoorequipment.com/expert-advice/gear-equipment/fuels-for-trangia-alcohol-stoves/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.canadianoutdoorequipment.com/expert-advice/gear-equipment/fuels-for-trangia-alcohol-stoves/</a></p>
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		By: Laura Slade		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2019 03:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You mention alcohol stove fuel being difficult to gt in Canada and while it’s true we have different options and names for things, it’s not necessarily true that fuel is harder to get. For my tuna can alcohol stove I use fondue fuel. I live in Halifax, Nova Scotia and I buy it at any grocery store (supermarket in the US). It’s $3 for 500ml (16 oz).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mention alcohol stove fuel being difficult to gt in Canada and while it’s true we have different options and names for things, it’s not necessarily true that fuel is harder to get. For my tuna can alcohol stove I use fondue fuel. I live in Halifax, Nova Scotia and I buy it at any grocery store (supermarket in the US). It’s $3 for 500ml (16 oz).</p>
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		By: The Ultimate Bikepacking Microadventure Gear Setup - BudgetBikepacking.com		</title>
		<link>https://pmags.com/stove-comparison-real-world-use#comment-674916</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Ultimate Bikepacking Microadventure Gear Setup - BudgetBikepacking.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Apr 2019 14:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[…] Here is a good article comparing the real world performance of the different stove systems. […]]]></description>
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		By: Paul Mags		</title>
		<link>https://pmags.com/stove-comparison-real-world-use#comment-660450</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Mags]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2019 22:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pmags.com/stove-comparison-real-world-use#comment-660422&quot;&gt;Pat&lt;/a&gt;.

A good alternative in some case for sure. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pmags.com/stove-comparison-real-world-use#comment-660422">Pat</a>.</p>
<p>A good alternative in some case for sure. </p>
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		By: Pat		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2019 20:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I love the Esbit stove. Its so small it fits inside my mess kit. It’s light and the fuel sure beats carrying around liquid fuel for weight. The thing is when I do cook when backpacking I only boil. Boil water for dried foods, for coffee, or boil the foods directly like stew or soup. As with any set up I always boil water with the lid on to speed up the boiling and that goes with my kit on the esbit. With a lid on the kit a cup of water will boil in a couple minutes. Also I always use a tinfoil shield around the stove (again like I would use for any stove). A plus is if I need more fuel for the esbit but don’t want to use another fuel tablet I can just feed twigs to it and keep it going. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To be fair I switched from using esbit fuel to UST fuel. I tested them and they are about equal in time to boil water and burn time.  The bonus is that UST fuel leaves ash instead of a residue so is easier to clean off than esbit fuel and unlike esbit it doesn’t have a smell to it. Certainly does lack that terrible fish smell that no number of ziplocks can trap that esbit gives off. Now I don’t feel I’m walking through bear  country smelling like I’m carrying a ripe salmon.&lt;/p&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the Esbit stove. Its so small it fits inside my mess kit. It’s light and the fuel sure beats carrying around liquid fuel for weight. The thing is when I do cook when backpacking I only boil. Boil water for dried foods, for coffee, or boil the foods directly like stew or soup. As with any set up I always boil water with the lid on to speed up the boiling and that goes with my kit on the esbit. With a lid on the kit a cup of water will boil in a couple minutes. Also I always use a tinfoil shield around the stove (again like I would use for any stove). A plus is if I need more fuel for the esbit but don’t want to use another fuel tablet I can just feed twigs to it and keep it going. </p>
<p>To be fair I switched from using esbit fuel to UST fuel. I tested them and they are about equal in time to boil water and burn time.  The bonus is that UST fuel leaves ash instead of a residue so is easier to clean off than esbit fuel and unlike esbit it doesn’t have a smell to it. Certainly does lack that terrible fish smell that no number of ziplocks can trap that esbit gives off. Now I don’t feel I’m walking through bear  country smelling like I’m carrying a ripe salmon.</p>
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		By: Backpacking/Hiking Ocakları &#8211; Bölüm 3 &#8211; Alkol Ocakları &#8211; endomanblog		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2018 18:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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