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		By: Paul Mags		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Mags]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2021 18:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pmags.com/five-more-colorado-backpacking-loops#comment-699499&quot;&gt;Randy&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Randy, The Lost Creek Wilderness gets hot in June and July.

I think the Eagles Nest loop may be a better one as if you take it at ~8 MPD, go slow and steady, and acclimate a day or two ahead of time you should be all set. Unlike Rocky Mtn NP or the Indian Peaks, you don&#039;t need a permit either. Caveat - In most years I would not attempt those before ~July 1st.  All depends on the snowpack. The area is nice for a hike in and doing basecamp-style trips as well if you&#039;d rather not tackle the whole loop.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pmags.com/five-more-colorado-backpacking-loops#comment-699499">Randy</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Randy, The Lost Creek Wilderness gets hot in June and July.</p>
<p>I think the Eagles Nest loop may be a better one as if you take it at ~8 MPD, go slow and steady, and acclimate a day or two ahead of time you should be all set. Unlike Rocky Mtn NP or the Indian Peaks, you don&#8217;t need a permit either. Caveat &#8211; In most years I would not attempt those before ~July 1st.  All depends on the snowpack. The area is nice for a hike in and doing basecamp-style trips as well if you&#8217;d rather not tackle the whole loop.</p>
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		By: Randy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2021 18:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Paul, 
My wife and I  are working on getting out and want to come back out to Colorado in June or July. Would like to do the Loss Wilderness hike you show in your book. I have hiked GC,Zion, At, but being a Illinois flat Lander would this be a good trail to start with? I figure 3 days to do since being older now.Or would you recommend a better trail?
Thank you very much for your time]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul,<br />
My wife and I  are working on getting out and want to come back out to Colorado in June or July. Would like to do the Loss Wilderness hike you show in your book. I have hiked GC,Zion, At, but being a Illinois flat Lander would this be a good trail to start with? I figure 3 days to do since being older now.Or would you recommend a better trail?<br />
Thank you very much for your time</p>
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		By: Paul Mags		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Mags]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2016 03:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pmags.com/five-more-colorado-backpacking-loops#comment-589791&quot;&gt;Whitney&lt;/a&gt;.

I did the loop in a day once. ;) All depends on the person and their navigation skills. Call it 2.5 days for the average backpacker.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pmags.com/five-more-colorado-backpacking-loops#comment-589791">Whitney</a>.</p>
<p>I did the loop in a day once. 😉 All depends on the person and their navigation skills. Call it 2.5 days for the average backpacker.</p>
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		By: Whitney		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2016 03:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you so much for the info. You&#039;re helping me decide which trails to take for a last-minute trip in early August. How many days/nights do you recommend setting aside for Cataract Lake and Elliot Ridge Loop?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for the info. You&#8217;re helping me decide which trails to take for a last-minute trip in early August. How many days/nights do you recommend setting aside for Cataract Lake and Elliot Ridge Loop?</p>
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		By: Paul Mags		</title>
		<link>https://pmags.com/five-more-colorado-backpacking-loops#comment-589470</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Mags]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2016 03:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pmags.com/five-more-colorado-backpacking-loops#comment-589455&quot;&gt;Another Kevin&lt;/a&gt;.

I think the last sentence sums it up quite nicely &quot;&lt;em&gt;There is a French saying, that what is true on one side of the Pyrenées is false on the other. &lt;/em&gt;&quot;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pmags.com/five-more-colorado-backpacking-loops#comment-589455">Another Kevin</a>.</p>
<p>I think the last sentence sums it up quite nicely &#8220;<em>There is a French saying, that what is true on one side of the Pyrenées is false on the other. </em>&#8221;<br />
🙂</p>
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		By: Another Kevin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 22:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You make me seriously envious! (Not really, there&#039;s awesome hiking near me, too. Just a different brand of awesomesauce.)

A quick note: You write: &quot;GPS units tend to be off and add mileage. Consumer grade GPS and GPS enabled phones are excellent for pinpointing location but are not accurate for measuring distance.&quot;

The problem is that GPS is actually TOO accurate (at least if it keeps reading high after applying an appropriately scaled noise filter). It&#039;s the same problem as when you get a longer distance measuring the trail with a wheel than you do with a tape. Distance in the natural environment is scale-dependent, and keeps on getting longer when you measure it more accurately. Paradoxically, it often does NOT approach a limit when you measure it at a progressively finer scale. L.F.Richardson first noted this &quot;coastline paradox&quot; when he  noticed that the Portuguese reported their measured border with Spain to be 987 km, but the Spanish reported it as 1214 km.

It was this &quot;coastline paradox&quot; that prompted Benoît Mandelbrot to develop the mathematical theory of fractals. There are lots of popular accounts of it, but a computer geek like you can most likely cope with the original paper at http://users.math.yale.edu/~bbm3/web_pdfs/howLongIsTheCoastOfBritain.pdf. At the very least, it would give you something to do in a long winter night, either make for interesting reading or else get you a little extra sleep. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make me seriously envious! (Not really, there&#8217;s awesome hiking near me, too. Just a different brand of awesomesauce.)</p>
<p>A quick note: You write: &#8220;GPS units tend to be off and add mileage. Consumer grade GPS and GPS enabled phones are excellent for pinpointing location but are not accurate for measuring distance.&#8221;</p>
<p>The problem is that GPS is actually TOO accurate (at least if it keeps reading high after applying an appropriately scaled noise filter). It&#8217;s the same problem as when you get a longer distance measuring the trail with a wheel than you do with a tape. Distance in the natural environment is scale-dependent, and keeps on getting longer when you measure it more accurately. Paradoxically, it often does NOT approach a limit when you measure it at a progressively finer scale. L.F.Richardson first noted this &#8220;coastline paradox&#8221; when he  noticed that the Portuguese reported their measured border with Spain to be 987 km, but the Spanish reported it as 1214 km.</p>
<p>It was this &#8220;coastline paradox&#8221; that prompted Benoît Mandelbrot to develop the mathematical theory of fractals. There are lots of popular accounts of it, but a computer geek like you can most likely cope with the original paper at <a href="http://users.math.yale.edu/~bbm3/web_pdfs/howLongIsTheCoastOfBritain.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://users.math.yale.edu/~bbm3/web_pdfs/howLongIsTheCoastOfBritain.pdf</a>. At the very least, it would give you something to do in a long winter night, either make for interesting reading or else get you a little extra sleep. 🙂</p>
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		By: Devin Quince		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2016 19:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very cool. I am doing a quick overnight trip in the State Forest up to Kelly Lake to support a running race and these pictures make me even more excited.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool. I am doing a quick overnight trip in the State Forest up to Kelly Lake to support a running race and these pictures make me even more excited.</p>
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