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	Comments on: Champagne Gate &#8211; Scott Jurek&#8217;s AT FKT	</title>
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		By: Paul Mags		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Mags]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2015 19:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pmags.com/champagne-gate-scott-jureks-at-fkt#comment-525772&quot;&gt;Clint&lt;/a&gt;.

Discussing the ramifications of it is not endorsing it. To ignore it, and not realize it signals the changing use of the outdoors, is not good imo.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pmags.com/champagne-gate-scott-jureks-at-fkt#comment-525772">Clint</a>.</p>
<p>Discussing the ramifications of it is not endorsing it. To ignore it, and not realize it signals the changing use of the outdoors, is not good imo.</p>
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		By: Clint		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2015 19:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Publicity stunt. I&#039;m disappointed you acknowledged him. Just my opinion]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Publicity stunt. I&#8217;m disappointed you acknowledged him. Just my opinion</p>
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		By: Paul Mags		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Mags]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2015 15:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pmags.com/champagne-gate-scott-jureks-at-fkt#comment-525516&quot;&gt;Mike&lt;/a&gt;.

In the climbing community, which is just as fractious  as the hiking community at times, there was similar arguing.

http://www.alpinist.com/doc/web15w/newswire-caldwell-jorgeson-free-dawn-wall

&lt;em&gt;&quot;The Dawn Wall project has stirred some controversy of its own, for the surrounding media coverage and for Caldwell and Jorgeson&#039;s manner of ascent. &quot;The style is a throwback to the &#039;50s siege climbing [and] some locals are unhappy about this circus,&quot;&lt;/em&gt;


  Not sure how the NPS felt..but based on the media blitz that lasted a long time, the effort was probably more organized with NPS being  active in the planning vs BSP in this FKT. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pmags.com/champagne-gate-scott-jureks-at-fkt#comment-525516">Mike</a>.</p>
<p>In the climbing community, which is just as fractious  as the hiking community at times, there was similar arguing.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.alpinist.com/doc/web15w/newswire-caldwell-jorgeson-free-dawn-wall" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.alpinist.com/doc/web15w/newswire-caldwell-jorgeson-free-dawn-wall</a></p>
<p><em>&#8220;The Dawn Wall project has stirred some controversy of its own, for the surrounding media coverage and for Caldwell and Jorgeson&#8217;s manner of ascent. &#8220;The style is a throwback to the &#8217;50s siege climbing [and] some locals are unhappy about this circus,&#8221;</em></p>
<p>  Not sure how the NPS felt..but based on the media blitz that lasted a long time, the effort was probably more organized with NPS being  active in the planning vs BSP in this FKT. </p>
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		By: Mike		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2015 15:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Was there a similar (polarized) reaction to the media attention when Caldwell/Jorgenson completed their Dawn Wall climb?  

I don&#039;t really have a problem with his celebration, even though alcohol is not allowed.  How many AT hikers (thrus and otherwise) will have a drink during their hike?  Unless someone is totally innocent of this infraction (and others), I would expect they should just keep their mouth shut and not judge.

I don&#039;t begrudge BSP their annoyance either, though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was there a similar (polarized) reaction to the media attention when Caldwell/Jorgenson completed their Dawn Wall climb?  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really have a problem with his celebration, even though alcohol is not allowed.  How many AT hikers (thrus and otherwise) will have a drink during their hike?  Unless someone is totally innocent of this infraction (and others), I would expect they should just keep their mouth shut and not judge.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t begrudge BSP their annoyance either, though.</p>
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		By: Stephen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2015 12:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think he hiked his own hike and I&#039;m happy for him, to set a goal and accomplish it is what we all strive for.  It&#039;s not my idea of a thru-hike but it doesn&#039;t matter.

My first thought when I saw the photo&#039;s of his summit was his celebration looked obnoxious and loud.  Even I knew alcohol is prohibited (I&#039;ve read the park rules).  I&#039;ve been at Baxter Peak when thru hikers finish, yes there&#039;s some noise but overall it&#039;s silent celebration and for some somber as they finish.  Each person takes a turn at the sign, even us lowly day hikers.  Get your photo, move out of the way.  You don&#039;t want it to become like the summit of Mt. Washington.  If a thru-hiker wants a few extra minutes I don&#039;t begrudge them one bit.

As for the fines, he should pay them, apologize and move on.  He and his entourage broke park rules plain and simple.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think he hiked his own hike and I&#8217;m happy for him, to set a goal and accomplish it is what we all strive for.  It&#8217;s not my idea of a thru-hike but it doesn&#8217;t matter.</p>
<p>My first thought when I saw the photo&#8217;s of his summit was his celebration looked obnoxious and loud.  Even I knew alcohol is prohibited (I&#8217;ve read the park rules).  I&#8217;ve been at Baxter Peak when thru hikers finish, yes there&#8217;s some noise but overall it&#8217;s silent celebration and for some somber as they finish.  Each person takes a turn at the sign, even us lowly day hikers.  Get your photo, move out of the way.  You don&#8217;t want it to become like the summit of Mt. Washington.  If a thru-hiker wants a few extra minutes I don&#8217;t begrudge them one bit.</p>
<p>As for the fines, he should pay them, apologize and move on.  He and his entourage broke park rules plain and simple.</p>
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